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31 January 2006 - 9:22am

Democrats practice political abstinence...

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They are a wonderment

Washington -- Judge Samuel Alito is expected to win confirmation to the Supreme Court today, after Senate Democrats led by the party's former presidential nominee John Kerry failed Monday to block Alito's nomination. The Democrats' maneuver exposed divisions within their party and prompted warnings from Republicans that it would come back to haunt a Democratic president. [...]

Nineteen Democrats voted to end the filibuster, joining all 53 Republicans who attended Monday's session.

Kerry's move to force a filibuster vote heightened the scrutiny by activists of a handful of moderates of both parties, including Feinstein, who already had announced her opposition to Alito.

Sell me a bridge!

Two weeks ago on a Sunday talk show, Feinstein seemed to rule out a filibuster of Alito, saying,

"I don't see those kinds of egregious things emerging that would justify a filibuster. I think when it comes to filibustering a Supreme Court appointment, you really have to have something out there whether it's gross moral turpitude or something that comes to the surface. Now, I mean, this is a man I might disagree with. That doesn't mean he shouldn't be on the court."

But Feinstein spokesman Howard Gantman said the senator's statements never ruled out support for a filibuster.

Ever pliable... and DiFi loves TV, if she can appear to discuss what is already decided (her vote), she will be there.
We know her well in San Francisco.

"Senator Feinstein has carefully over the last couple of weeks been going through the transcript, she's been carefully going through (Alito's) lack of responsiveness to a number of questions on very serious issues facing our nation," Gantman said. "She went back through his earlier writings, through his court cases, and Senator Feinstein reached the point where she felt she could not support ending debate on this."

Sell me the Bay Bridge too!

Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., who voted to sustain the filibuster but had disagreed with Kerry's decision to use it, said the problem was President Bush's failure to consult with Democrats.

Reid argued that former Democratic President Bill Clinton had avoided nasty confirmation fights by pre-clearing his nominations of Justices Ruth Bader Ginsberg and Stephen Breyer with Republicans.

Bush actually consulted with Reid on O'Connor's successor, heeding Reid's recommendation of White House counsel Harriett Miers. But Miers' nomination was soon withdrawn under fire from conservatives who suspected her ideology and qualifications.

Reid called Miers "a good woman treated so poorly -- and the people who destroyed her are being rewarded by the Alito nomination."

Well, the Republicans have a demanding base.... notice who got "rewarded".

Kerry announced his filibuster on the liberal blog Daily Kos, and after returning to the Senate Friday, he said he was taking a stand on principle. "This is not the vote of Monday afternoon," he said. "This is a vote of history."

And history is announced on Daily Kos? I don't think so... more likely histrionics take place on the pages there. About it. The FP is populated with Democratic party organiser wanna bees. Lordy, can it get more tawdry? Deflation is on the horizon. Deflated jellyfish is not a wonderful sight...

Poor Democrats. They hung themselves with the Gang of 14. Pure numbers game. You are 44 in the senate, a filibuster requires 41, meanwhile 7, supposedly of your own party are a standing group against filibuster. It would be hilarious if it were not tragic. And obvious from minute one last April.

Seven Democrats who were part of a bipartisan group labeled the "Gang of 14" had indicated Alito's nomination didn't meet the extraordinary circumstances that could trigger a filibuster.

Trigger Cops vs Jellyfish. Down for the count... years ago.

Besides the fact that the filibuster was a hopeless cause, Senate Democrats and consultants worried that the move would put Democrats in Republican-leaning states in a bind during a midterm election year when they had a chance to retake their Senate majority.

Kerry's filibuster robbed these "red state Democrats" of anywhere to hide, forcing them to cast two conflicting votes -- one pro-Alito vote Monday to end the filibuster and another today against Alito's actual confirmation.

One of those Democrats up for re-election this year is Sen. Bill Nelson of Florida, who voted against the filibuster but said he would vote against Alito.

Yes the Democrats used Bill Nelson of FL over the Schiavo mess, they needed his seat badly and could not risk him being plastered with "You killed Terri".

The Democrats lost 2002 for the machinations to "win".

Can they do anything but protect Republican interests?

They lost the ground game in FL in '00, by not being ready. Quess who was ready, with litigation written and a plan to fight thru the last elector. Not the Democrats. They trumpeted they had - scream now - the Kennedy machine on the ground in FL. Keep screaming.

The party to save Nelson of FL. It's a hobby.

The party of the Davos whatever. More hobbies and pastimes. Please, go back to Davos. Alito was lost many years ago. The battles that never were.

DiFi and Blum are, I am sure, preparing for the annual drop in at the Villa d'Este on Lake Como...

Alito hearings and votes are tiresome responsiblities squeezed in. It is a haphazard game, at best.

And get ready for the Big Whopper, you knew it was coming:

Plus, he said, "It doesn't look good to push a filibuster and lose. You want to save it for the next time when you might be able to win it."

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postdated's picture
postdated says:

...but I am still glad Kerry and Kennedy did it.

Otherwise, this fucking game of metered low expectations and envitabilty would have left people still sleeping...and not feeling the pain of the real betrayal.

At least now people are angry, and see more clearly what a freaking farce Reid is as the leader of the Senate Dems.... if Kerry had not have pushed the button to raised expectations most people would have snoozed thru the hearing as was hoped by Reid and his minions. Looks like the capitualtion plan was to Rally the Troops on a book tour...with banners and buttons... Oh My.

Kerry can be a mean shit (I remember the primaries) and I suspect that he got great joy in putting a stick in the wheel of Reid's capitulation plan and watching him and other Dem tumble over their handle bars... Obama was sent out once again to calm the restless natives, other Dems overwhelmed by guilt or greed (same shit) jumped on the bandwagon.

However, just for the sheer joy of watching Dems trying wiggle their way out of this great big pile of capitulation shit ... and for the thousands of nasty angry letters, calls and emails sent today to the traitorous Dems .... I salute Kerry and Kennedy.


(31 January 2006 - 11:23am)
postdated's picture
postdated says:

Failed Filibuster Bid Worries Democrats

By John Stanton

Roll Call Staff

January 31, 2006

Although the Senate on Monday soundly defeated the 11th-hour decision by Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) to push for a filibuster of Supreme Court nominee Judge Samuel Alito, some Democrats worry privately that the failed filibuster could have long-term effects on the party's ability to regain control of the chamber in November....

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Officially, Kerry's Democratic colleagues have avoided directly criticizing Kerry or addressing frustrations with its 2004 presidential candidate....Privately, however, many Democratic aides and lawmakers -- including those who adamantly oppose Alito's nomination -- expressed growing frustration with Kerry....

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"While I don't think it will amount to a hill of beans in the end, the White House should send him a bouquet of flowers for this," one senior aide said, adding that "the timing couldn't have been worse ... for a Member like this to open us up to criticism of being a divided party."...

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Although Kerry's announcement Friday, made while the he was on a trip to Switzerland, stating that he would champion liberal calls for a filibuster, won praise from hard-line Web loggers and left-leaning activists, it prompted significant hand-wringing by party officials.

Democratic aides in the Senate said that many within the party were particularly surprised, since Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) had asked his colleagues not to attempt a filibuster, arguing that the party would be better served by focusing on the GOP's recent spate of ethics controversies and by trying to frame today's State of the Union address in a favorable way...."The story would have been that Reid kept 90 percent of the Democrats together, which would have been a great story," this source said.


(31 January 2006 - 6:42pm)
Madman in the Marketplace's picture

managed to drum up a meaningless 42 votes today, though.

Dead party walking. Please, please, please let the progressive politicians realize they need to walk away.


(31 January 2006 - 12:28pm)
alsis39's picture
alsis39 says:

...If you'll only show them how. What did Malcolm X say about White folks ? Ah, yes. "Forsake the filthy swine." Start your own party. Stop giving them money. Send back their snowstorm of bullshit solicitations in their own postage-paid envelopes. Add some nasty messages in the space where your pledge amount used to be. Better yet, send a good snarky rant you write yourself, or one written by some sensible soul like Patricia Goldsmith, Brenda Baker, Nicole Colson or Margaret Kimberly. Start your own party. Re-register Socialist, Libertarian, Green or Independent. Email your erstwhile overlords and tell them they can forget about your vote unless they bolt along with you, no matter what they claim their platform is. Start your own party. Tell them you don't care anymore if they lose to Atilla the Fundie Hun by one fucking vote and that vote is yours. Tell them you want election reform, IRV or concordet voting, open primaries, mandatory paper ballots. Start your own party. Call up some TV cameras, tear up piles of Democrap literature and throw it in the fucking dumpster.

Did I mention that it might be time to start your own party ?


(31 January 2006 - 3:26pm)
Drew Edmondson's picture
Drew Edmondson says:

The cloture vote called the bluff of pretend Democrats. Here in Colorado we already know about Salazar. That is why we took over the Colorado State Party last year from the Kinda's that supported him. In 2006 we will elect 2 new Dem folks to Congress including defeating Musgrave. The time to give to the Party is over. It is all about individual candidates. It does not take long to find a progressive Democrat candidate on some level. Find them, work for them,pony up a few bucks. If your Senator was one of the 17 just turn your back on them. If you campaigned for them and have any of their stuff, shred it and deliever it. The third party is the progressive wing of the Democratic Party. Our efforts made a difference. Hell even DLC darlings Clinton and Biden voted no. I have and will outwalk, outtalk, out phone and out commit myself over mutant Bush/Falwell/Delay rabid MF's..A simple question to the frustrated folks,; If you are truly against this war how many times have you been arrested in protest against it. Google "Lakewood Dozen arrested" and you you find my name on my last arrest. Ghandi said "Be the Change" Until we become serious in our commitment we are just like the Dem Senators that did not want to take a chance. Buckle Up.. Compassion/Dignity/Truth..and don't forget to dance...Drew


(31 January 2006 - 5:26pm)
alsis39's picture
alsis39 says:

"...The third party is the progressive wing of the Democratic Party..."

The Democratic Party is the progressive movement's designated veal pen. Dean cannot change that. Kucinich cannot change that. Twenty years ago, Jesse Jackson got closer than most, but he couldn't change it, either. The folks running the party hate progressives. You are a brainless, malleable version of an ATM machine to them. Nothing more.

You can keep the DP. I personally think that veal is gross.


(31 January 2006 - 8:00pm)
Thersites's picture
Thersites says:

Back to blogwhoring for justice:

First, I've cross-referenced the Dem Senators for and against the filibuster with who's up for reelection this year, and who's in the Gang of 14. (Hey -- everyone in the G14 voted for cloture! Hey -- if everyone up for reelection pandered to their base, we would have won!)

(I've also got links to a couple of challengers: Ned Lamont (vs Joementum) and Mark Wilson (vs. Cantwell). I'd appreciate people's thoughts about Wilson, in particular: is he the best guy to beat Cantwell in the primary and still win the general? Is Cantwell really a Vichy?)

Second, I REALLY wish that everyone who made millions of phone calls, emails and faxes to Senators before the cloture vote, would make at least a few - and hopefully more than a few - to praise those who did the right thing, and later to chastise those who didn't. I'm starting with the praise to the good guys. It's really important, both to retain the moral high ground (we say thank you to those who support us), AND TACTICALLY, because it reminds them that WE'RE STILL PAYING ATTENTION.

Please, please, make the thank you calls, and then we'll start making the screw you calls. I estimate we -- meaning everyone, Kos, MoveOn, NARAL, everyone -- turned out several hundred thousand phone calls against cloture. I'd like to crank out at least 50,000 thank yous over the next week or two.

As before, resources are over at my site, but go wherever you want for your info. I just want the calls to go out!

Thanks.


(1 February 2006 - 12:12pm)
Stevo's picture
Stevo says:

History was "announced" on Kos because someone desperately needed to board the hype train. What tactical brillance, in one move become the online white knight and in turn shore up support for another bid. Great that Kerry supported a filibuster, but PURE POLITICAL CALCULATION. The next time Kerry waffles or fails, the sheep will cry "remember the filibuster". Kos knew, prior to the post, that it was coming- he immediately clarifed the authenticity. Sorry, I'm not that dumb. Kerry as accepted savior should serve as more proof that the blog is irrelevant, except for- give me a D, give me a E, give me a break.


(1 February 2006 - 9:39pm)

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